Is It Color Pencils Or Colored Pencils
| Posted: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 1:53:57 AM |
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Technically, should it be "colour pencils" or "coloured pencils"?
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| Posted: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 2:29:06 AM |
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Koh Elaine wrote:
Technically, should it be "colour pencils" or "coloured pencils"?
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Koh Elaine: Good question.
According to the Oxford English dictionary, either spelling is acceptable though "colored pencils" is much more commonly used, and was also the first way it was written starting in the early 1700s. Put it trough the Ngram word usage chart, and it shows the "colored pencil" is by far the most common usage, in current years "color pencils" is rarely used. When I entered "color pencil" into Google, it automatically showed listings for "colored pencils" and these were by far the main listings that showed, with very few listings for "color pencils." Notice I'm using the spelling "color" instead of "colour" as I'm American and it's one of the many words where we drop the "u," but the same info applies to your question.
Someone else may come up with a spelling rule that applies to this question, the dictionary listing I used didn't give a spelling rule for why one would use "colored" instead of "color" but did say both were acceptable.
| Posted: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 2:34:43 AM |
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I believe colour is used in most types of English and color is used almost exclusively in American English.
There may be a few types of English derived from American English were it is also used.
| Posted: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 6:32:29 AM |
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Would you say 'colour people', or 'coloured people'? (I know we must now say 'people of colour', but you know what I mean. Surely we are never going to have to say pencils of colour!)).
| Posted: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 8:33:53 AM |
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jacobusmaximus wrote:
...I know we must now say 'people of colour'...
The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) is still a very important organization
Wikipedia:
The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People is an African-American civil rights organization in the United States, formed in 1909 by Moorfield Storey, Mary White Ovington and W. E. B. Du Bois
| Posted: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 10:27:02 AM |
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Well I must admit that I'm very surprised.
I had never heard anyone refer to 'colour pencils' (or even 'color pencils'). To me, it has always been obviously 'coloured' as Mactoria and Jacobus say.
However, these are the results for American books
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and these for British books:
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Obviously what we hear in conversation is different from what you see in books, though 'color' in America seems a lot more popular than 'colour' in Britain, they both exist and are used.
| Posted: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 4:58:49 PM |
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Can I throw another spanner in the works
My old-fashioned BE.
- for younger children - colouring pencils.
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For older children and artists - coloured pencils.
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For artists, pencils that blend in water like watercolour paints - watercolour pencils
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for strange people who don't understand adjectives - colour pencils
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| Posted: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 6:17:27 PM |
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Let's not forget collared pencils on Pinterest.
| Posted: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 8:04:39 PM |
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Sarrriesfan wrote:
I believe colour is used in most types of English and color is used almost exclusively in American English.
There may be a few types of English derived from American English were it is also used.
Speaking of people of African American extract as colored people has never made sense to me! We're all colored! I'm pink coloured! Even albinos have a very pale pink color.
I'm just sayin'.
| Posted: Thursday, September 1, 2016 12:29:26 PM |
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While I would tend to say "colored pencils" I would also say "color TV".
Oh Lord, won't you buy me a color TV?
Dialing For Dollars is trying to find me.
I wait for delivery each day until three,
So oh Lord, won't you buy me a color TV?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qev-i9-VKlY
| Posted: Thursday, September 1, 2016 2:02:02 PM |
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Color film.
The numbers of COCA hits, that I got, are as follows.
101, color film
16, color films
2, colored film
0, colored films
PS
There is also an example with the plural of TV:
We got to move these refrigerators, we got to move these color TVs.
Eoin Riedy, I think you revealed your age. If that's your example, I would say that you are at least 50. No need to answer, this is just my guess.
| Posted: Thursday, September 1, 2016 4:01:28 PM |
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The difference is, that a colour TV is the type of TV that can show programmes in colour, not black and white.
A coloured TV describes a TV which has a colour - it is not black.
A colour film is the type of film that shows images in technicolor (other systems are available).
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A coloured film is a decorative material which is not colourless.
| Posted: Friday, September 2, 2016 6:06:51 PM |
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In spite of your ngram results, the expression in the USA is "colored pencil". Many middle-school students are required to have a box of colored pencils to use for creating charts as a part of their studies.
| Posted: Saturday, September 3, 2016 7:08:34 AM |
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Just a couple of examples:
The Art of Creative Lettering: Becky Higgins, Siobhán McGowan 1999
"After outlining the shapes in ink, use color pencils or pens to shade . . ."
Inner-city Kids: Adolescents Confront Life and Violence in an Urban Community: Alice McIntyre
"What color pencils should we order for the assembly . . ."
Rendering the visual field: illusion becomes reality: Kevin Forseth - 1991
The supermarket variety of color pencils is not a suitable rendering tool . . .
Drawing in Color: Rendering Techniques for Architects and Illustrators: Albert Lorenz, Stanley Salzman - 1991
Erasable with plastic eraser
Colors lack intensity
Requires more skills to apply and is more difficult to erase than color pencils.
As I said, I was very surprised, as I have never heard or seen this used.
| Posted: Sunday, September 4, 2016 1:58:54 AM |
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I understand that "colored pencils" sounds natural to native speakers. But I have the following two examples to illustrate my confusion.
Colored bulbs.
No problems with this. We can color incandescent bulbs with paints of different color and we get colored bulbs, and colored lights. Notice that the source light in colored bulbs is the same. The appearance of color is due to the bulb coloring.
Color LEDs (Light Emitting Diodes).
The colored light we see when looking at a red, green or blue LED is created directly by the LED. The source light (the LED light) is not changed by some kind of coloring as in the example of incandescent bulbs. I don't see anything to call colored, in LEDs. Therefore, I would say "color LEDs", not "colored LEDs".
I explain "colored pencils" as short for "pencils with the colored core".
| Posted: Sunday, September 4, 2016 10:19:52 AM |
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coag wrote:
I don't see anything to call colored, in LEDs. Therefore, I would say "color LEDs", not "colored LEDs". I explain "colored pencils" as short for "pencils with the colored core".
That sound right to me.
I could probably strain my brain to explain the logic of the people who use 'color pencils' instead of 'coloured pencils' - but I'll just leave it as "they don't talk correct, like what I do".
Then, of course there are these:
| Posted: Sunday, September 4, 2016 12:28:54 PM |
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Thanks for the response, Drag0nspeaker. Thanks everyone for your comments.
Is It Color Pencils Or Colored Pencils
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